Cameron, Bergman, and Aronofsky

Austin and Andrew discuss the greats, the not so greats, and the underrated of film history

Andrew Harp: One of the things that Mira like talked about was that she talked about PIAs, but she also talked about another of one of Guru that's famous movies called Paper Flowers and she, um, compared it to a and a half. Really?

Austin Lugo: Yeah. Ooh, okay. I'm gonna have to, which, that's also on Criterion. . Okay. I mean, we talked about it for an hour, so you know that I love the film, but I definitely wanna see more of his work.

I

Andrew Harp: mean, he has very few works too. Oh really? He has, uh, eight directed

Austin Lugo: movies. Oh, shit. That's not many at all. I

Andrew Harp: wonder. Oh, well on Criterion there are one, two, he has like seven movies on Criterion. Okay. So pretty much all of his movies are on there.

Austin Lugo: Oh, damn. Okay. So you could watch pretty much his entire collection.

Awesome. I think

Andrew Harp: he died young. He died in his forties.

Austin Lugo: Oh, damn. That's, that's very young. For a direct. Wow.

Andrew Harp: That's tragic. Actually he died, uh, he was 39. Holy shit. How'd he die?

Austin Lugo: I don't know. Damn. That's sad. .

Andrew Harp: That's so young. I think he was relatively underappreciated as well, which is, uh, it's ironic considering, uh, Piazza.

Yeah. .

Austin Lugo: Well, I guess if there's ever a good time Yeah. Start the new year off, right? That Wow. Yes, sir. Well, as you know, my mom was in town this last week, and so we did Christmas with her and the only thing I asked for for Christmas was films, and I didn't give her a list. I just said, you know, buy anything on Criterion Collection, like you're probably not gonna go wrong.

I knew she wasn't gonna buy me Wally. I mean, Wally's fine, but I don't really need, sure. I need a Criterion collection, Wally. Oh, I don't think

Andrew Harp: anyone needs it. Yeah, I'm good.

Austin Lugo: She bought me a lot of great films I hadn't seen before. She bought me the Martin Scorsese directed concert film about the band, which is called The Last Walt.

I think,

Andrew Harp: yeah, I've seen that movie many times. The film.

Austin Lugo: Yes, I, I figured, I mean, it's Martin Scorsese and I love the band, so I'm excited for that. I got the Last Temptation to Christ, which I'd never seen before, and a couple other really great films. I, the only film I had seen before was the Fisher King, but I had actually just watched that recently.

The rest of the films I had not seen before, so I'm very excited about that. But the thing I'm most excited about that I got is Imar Bergman's, a Criterion Collection. Of all of his films, his entire filmography. You got the Bergman box set and I got the Bergman box set. That's nice. Yeah. I wish I had it here.

It's at the theater. Oh my God. I've seen

Andrew Harp: it in person. Like I've seen it, like, uh, I, I know someone who has it, so I've looked at it and it's, it's a nice collection. It would be nice to have. It's got the persona, I think. Mm-hmm. , I think it's got a shot from persona on the cover. Yeah. That's cool.

Austin Lugo: I'm, I'm so excited.

We're definitely gonna be sh doing a, uh, I don't know when Bergman's birthday is, but. Perhaps we'll do some sort of you retrospective on his birthday cuz we, I mean we have all his films, so, and I've seen most of them. I would say there's probably like two or three in the collection they haven't seen, but I'm pumped.

Yeah,

Andrew Harp: that's good. Yeah. Good Christmas. Yeah. The box set's good. Yeah, that's a nice box set's one that Godzilla box said that would be a nice one to have. Hmm. Yeah. At noon today I'm gonna pay a visit to the planet of Pandora IMAX 3D avatar, the way of water. I will learn the way of the water. I've not seen it yet, but

Austin Lugo: I will in a couple hours.

Are you excited for this experience? I mean, I, I know you love Avatar, but you know, looking at the kind. Way people feel about the film and people reacted. Are you still, uh, still excited about the experience? I mean, I

Andrew Harp: don't know what reactions you're seeing. All the reactions I've seen have been either very positive or mostly positive, so I don't know what you're talking

Austin Lugo: about.

What I've mostly seen, and it's probably just because of the, the different people that we follow on, on letterbox and stuff, it's mostly just like, it's good, but it's not like great. I don't know. I've never, I guess I just haven't seen anyone super excited. About the second avatar other than you. And I'm sure you'll have a great experience, cuz I know how much you love Avatar.

So is it as long as the last one? Is it three hours? It's over three hours. That's so much movie. Especially at the theater. That's gonna be your whole day. Hell yeah it

Andrew Harp: is. I can't wait. I'm very, very excited. I'm okay with that. I'm very, very excited to, once again visit the

Austin Lugo: Pandora. How are you going? Imax?

Imax 3d. Oh, 3D too. Oh shit. Of course.

Andrew Harp: The whole thing. I gotta do it. If I enjoy the movie enough, I might see it in regular standard definition later as well. From what I've seen, I think generally the consensus is like, it's basically more avatar from the first movie where there's probably some quality missing in some of like the writing and and story and stuff, you know?

I think like the second. Kind of staggers. I've heard, like I've heard it kind of ticks a long time now. I've just heard nothing but good things about the visual element of the movie. And I don't know if you're interested at all singing in the theater.

Austin Lugo: I mean, if I'm gonna spend three hours on a movie, it's not gonna be Avatar.

That's a lot of investment. I mean, I understand like why that theater experience would be valuable. It's very valuable to

Andrew Harp: me. But

Austin Lugo: gotta see it. I don't know. I think I'd really see like Babylon comes out today or not. Y.

Andrew Harp: I'm sorry, dude, but that movie looks really bad.

Austin Lugo: The trailers don't make it look good.

I'm not looking forward to it. I mean, I've loved everything Damien Giselle has done up to this point, so I'm mixed

Andrew Harp: on him. Yeah, I'm mixed on him. I think he's good, but I think he's overrated and I think that this movie is not gonna turn out well. , but I don't know. We'll see. I'm good. I don't wanna see Babylon.

I wanna see fucking Avatar. I wanna go to Pandora. I wanna see its beautiful vistas, it seas it's mountains. I wanna ride on the animals. I wanna kill humans. I wanna like shoot arrows at them, like I wanna learn the way of the water. But I feel you though, like this is a direct James Cameron quote. He says, if you love the first movie, you're gonna love these movies.

And if you hated it, you're probably gonna hate these. So I think, there you go, Austin, like , I think that's a direct quote from James Cameron. So I think that's, uh, yeah, I think you're vindicated from not saying avatar in theaters. Don't worry about

Austin Lugo: it. I will see at some point, I mean, I, cause I know how much you love it, so.

Andrew Harp: No, I don't care. Like, I don't, I don't, I mean, I don't give a fuck if you see it or not. I'm just saying like, I don't see why you would see it. Since you're not a huge fan of the first movie, and I, it's not even that I think the first movie is perfect or anything like that. I, I think Cameron's made better movies.

I think Terminators better. But I don't know. Clearly a lot of like care and time has been put into the movie considering it took him 13 years to make it. So I don't think it's like a throwaway sequel or anything like that, but I'm not expecting it to be like a masterpiece or, well, I don't know. I'm not expecting it to be a perfect movie.

At least

Austin Lugo: James Cameron's not necessarily my cup of tea, but I have a lot of respect for him as a filmmaker. He really has put a shit ton of work into Avatar two and Avatar three. Whenever that comes out. He's gonna come out

Andrew Harp: with it in 20 years, but he's already,

Austin Lugo: he shot Avatar two and three back to back.

So like it's already made. I mean, it might not be edited, but like it's already. Like been shot and shit. That's what I'm saying. You're right. Editing

Andrew Harp: is gonna take 20 years .

Austin Lugo: He'll probably be dead by the time Avatar three comes out. That's what I'm saying.

Andrew Harp: He's like, what, in his fifties or sixties? When was he born?

He was born in 1954, so yeah, he's approaching 70. Yeah,

Austin Lugo: he's getting there. He's getting up there. 66. He's almost 70.

Andrew Harp: Yeah. Yeah. Damn. He's so

Austin Lugo: good. Good for him. I guess. Are you gonna see, uh, the whale?

Andrew Harp: Maybe. I've heard mixed things, but I think generally people do not like it. I mean, Aronofski, he's kind of a.

So

Austin Lugo: I'm not sure I like his early work. I mean, I think the wrestler is incredible. I think pie is really good. That's one I haven't seen. I gotta watch that one. I think the wrestler's the best film. I think if you're gonna watch any Darren Anki film, it's gonna be the wrestler. Yeah, he should watch it. I don't think he's made anything.

It's good before or since. I think Blackstone's good too.

Andrew Harp: One's good. Raku and Mother are very overrated, in my opinion. Yes. I think both those movies are extremely overrated. Agreed. And I'm assuming. Arn Osky will continue in that direction with this movie, but I guess we'll see. Have you seen Pi? I haven't seen Pi for some reason.

Have you

Austin Lugo: seen Christopher Nolan's the following, his first film? Yeah. That, that movie's all right. Yeah, it, it's very similar vibes, right? Cause it's like super small budget, almost like student film, but it has some like really cool ideas in it. I think it's worth the watch just for like kind of some of the creative storytelling that he does and, and just some of the things he does with a tiny budget.

It's hard to tell cuz like the trailer for this film is just like, it doesn't show anything. So I have no real idea if this film's gonna be any good or not, which I

Andrew Harp: think I've generally heard that the movie itself isn't very good, but I've heard Brad and Frazier is good. I heard he's like good in it.

Austin Lugo: I haven't seen Brenda Frazier in something in a long time, so I'd like to see him.

I'd like to see him give a great perform. It's hard to tell. You know, Babylon is three hours long. Is it really? It's three hours long. Ah, god damn it. I was stuck. That's long. Why do people make movies this long? It's three hours and nine minutes. It's over three hours long. I love

Andrew Harp: a good three hour movie, man.

Austin Lugo: That's just such a commitment. It's fine. It's especially like if you go to the movie theater cause it's like, it's like 30 minutes to the movie theater and then you gotta get there for the previews. So that's like another 30 minutes. I mean it's like five hours of your day. That's so much time.

Andrew Harp: No, I feel you.

I feel you. I don't know if, yeah, Lincoln can kind of deter when you want to go to the movie theater or not, but at least with a three hour movie, I find that you get locked in. Right? You get locked into the experience, so you can take it in more than if you watched at home. That's true, but it's also nice to take breaks during a three hour movie as well, and not have to miss anything.

Like Fable Men's is a two and a half hour long movie as well. Tar is a two and a half hour long movie. Yeah. All these movies are long

Austin Lugo: Fable Men's doesn't feel like two and a half hours though. I mean, you know, we talked about the Oldman's before and I had my complaints, but I will say that that movie does run pretty quick.

But I think we should go back to what, uh, 2001 did. I think we should have intermissions. I think we should do 90 minutes and then have like a, because when I saw, uh, 2000. At IMAX for, its like 50th anniversary. I think it's for my 21st birthday. They still do the play intermission and like everyone got up and like walked around.

I think we should go back to that. I think we should have 90 minutes of film. I know, but

Andrew Harp: everything is still prolonged. But I mean like

Austin Lugo: if we're, if you're gonna do a three hour film anyways, I'm not saying like all films have intermissions. I'm just saying like if a film's over two hours Yeah. I require an intermission.

That's just me . I'm just. If our next film is three hours long, we're gonna have an intermission.

Andrew Harp: I don't want it when I'm watching an avatar, I don't want an intermission. I want it to be an uninterrupted experience on Pandora. It's like I'm there.

Austin Lugo: Is there anything else good

Andrew Harp: coming out? I watched band shoes in in a Sharon recently.

Austin Lugo: Oh yeah.

Andrew Harp: And pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's good. I think everyone in it is good. I think it's a good story. Yeah, it was a good movie. It was funny. You haven't seen much

Austin Lugo: of Martin McDonough's stuff, right? Yeah, I

Andrew Harp: haven't, uh, I, I didn't see Three Billboards. I've seen him, Bruce, but it's been years and I haven't seen anything else by him.

But McDonough, you know, he's a, he's a good writer, I think, but I don't think he's a very good director. He didn't really move me visually.

Austin Lugo: Martin McDonough is first and foremost, uh, playwright. Right? Because he originally came from theater, so, and Banes is his most visual

Andrew Harp: film. It's only visual because he of the location that he is in.

Yeah, , like, he's kind of cheating, right? Like of course it looks great because he is in the beautiful Irish countryside. , like he's cheating there, you know? So obviously it looks really beautiful because he can kind of have these amazing backdrops, but it's not really like a very engaging movie visually.

Like he doesn't really do anything. It's not bad, but it's serviceable.

Austin Lugo: Yeah. I mean, I think there's some great gaffing done in the film, but if you're a fan of Martin McDonough, you're not in it for the visual experience because he is just kind of very, it's to the point, I think that just comes from his theater background.

Like he just shoots the scene, so like you can see all of the actors in it and you know, he's not shooting like an Imar Bergman. Jean Luard or Zawa, but if you like his writing, you'll enjoy the films. But if you're trying to go in for like a, a vivid visual experience, his films are not the films to do that with.

Cuz I've, I've seen almost all of his films, but I mean, Banies is probably his visually most interesting film. And you're right, he is cheating. And when you're shooting on the Irish countryside, like it's gonna look beautiful no matter what. But that's understand. I feel that it's a

Andrew Harp: good story. Everything else is good.

I think the ending doesn't hit very hard, but I think everything else, like I said, everything else in it is. Pretty good. I'm a big fan of Brandon Gleason. He's like one of the greatest actors of all time, in my

Austin Lugo: opinion. Truly one of the greats. I love him. I love everyone Emmett in small cast, but yeah, that's good.

Yeah, I went to the theater this week or last week with my little sister and my mom, and so we had to find a kid friendly film. , which not a lot of kid friendly films this year for whatever reason, you know, typically Christmas has a lot of like fence films. You saw Bones and All . I did not take my five year old sister to see Bones and all

No, I shoulda loved it. , she might have, honestly, she's got good taste. No, we went and saw Disney's Strange World, which is a film that I knew almost nothing about. Disney buried the. For some reason, and honestly, I spent most of the film trying to figure out why Disney buried Strange World. Cause they did almost no marketing for.

Andrew Harp: They should just not make movies anymore. Like they should just like, not like produce films anymore. They just don't give a fuck anymore. Like, who cares now? Like movies are done for like, they should just like focus on other ventures. Yeah. Like what's the point of like not spending any marketing on it?

Like, I don't

Austin Lugo: understand, like that's what I spent the film trying to figure out because it's, it's a very competently made film, well-written. It looks good, it's creative. I guess the main character is gay. , but it's not like a big plot point. So, cause I know like Disney does this thing where they never, he's gay and like

Andrew Harp: there's nothing

Austin Lugo: like, yeah, right.

Cause, cause like Disney wants to be able to show their film and countries where they still ban or like sensor, they're those types of films. So they never make it like a big thing. And it's not in this, like, there's maybe three scenes where like they mention that he's, he's a teenage boy that likes another, So like very like throw off scenes.

Cuz originally I thought like, oh, cause they almost open up on that scene. Like it's very early in the film that you learn these gays. I'm like, oh, maybe that's why they buried the film. Yeah. Like they buried it because they don't wanna be Right. Disney cam never be controversial. They can never produce anything that, you know, says anything about anything.

But they pretty much abandon that train almost immediately. So it's not that, I mean, I guess like part of it is like the story is about, Global warming, like it's, it's basically a parable for global warming and how we should take care of the environment. So maybe that was too controversial for Disney to say that, you know, we should not.

Destroy the environment. Yo, that's

Andrew Harp: controversial as fuck.

Austin Lugo: I don't know. Like I admit, I was distracted by the fact that I couldn't figure out why the film was marketed so poorly and just like, cuz I'm, I'm someone who loves watching trailers. It's

Andrew Harp: probably something more petty, probably. It's probably something way petty.

Like somebody got mad at someone

Austin Lugo: else. Yeah, it's probably like they got pissed at the director or someone on the team and they're just. You're right Andrew, you're, you're completely right. I'm sure it was just something absolutely stupid and they just, yeah. . Which, which sucks cuz like, I mean like, you know, it's, it's fucking Disney.

But like of the Disney films I've seen in the last couple of years, like it is a, a well-written, creative film. I don't think there's anything great about it, but I think it's definitely at par with like all the other films. So I think it's. Shitty way to treat. I feel bad for the creative team that made this film because it's clear that like, you know, this is gonna be like a, a scar on the record of everyone involved, cuz you know it's not gonna make any money at the box office, which it hasn't been.

Yeah. No one's going to see it. And it's not really their fault. It's just like Disney put no effort into telling people that this film existed or that it was in theaters. Yeah. Which is just. . It's a really shitty thing to do. I mean, not to say like Disney doesn't do shitty things all the time because you know, they're constantly doing shitty things, but like this is just.

A new level? No, they're infallible. Yeah, . It's just a new level of, of pettiness. For whatever reason, they decided to do what they did. And I mean, Sophia liked the film, so I guess at the end of the day, that's all that really matters. Like if your five year old likes the film or not. Yeah. I, I thought was enjoyable.

You know, it, it's a fun experience. Yeah. I think that it's a good, you know, parable for global warming and I think it has some like, Make some good points and you know, it's a Wiley cast of characters of different ethnicities and races and all that sort of things. I don't know, I, I don't really have a lot to say about the film itself.

The film itself is just fine. There's like nothing great to say about it, but I think despite the fact that I don't think it's a great film, I think it deserved better than what it got. Like, there are plenty of much worse films that had much better marketing behind them. And I, I think that's just a, it's just a shitty thing for Disney to do.

Yep.

Andrew Harp: They're good. They're, they're good. I would say I watched a, have you watched Black Adam yet? ?

Austin Lugo: No, but Jimmy has, I saw it the other

Andrew Harp: day and because they put it on H B O Max and I was like, fuck it. Yeah. I mean, it sucks. Like it's just, it's a shitty movie, . It's, uh, From the director of Jungle Cruise, oh, comes a black Adam.

That director's interesting because he has a lot of like early films that have like a lot of like promise and potential. But then Lately's just been doing these, uh, Dwayne, the Rock Johnson vehicles and uh, black Adam is, uh, pretty bad. There's just nothing under the hood. Kind of the same thing, like I don't have a lot to say about it, just because it's just so, like, there's just so much like weight.

In the move there's so everything feels so weighty. Mm-hmm. , and yet I feel absolutely nothing about it. That's kind of the thing that these superhero movies do, right? They just kind of like, they do a lot of things to make you feel like the movie has like a lot of like urgency, but I don't feel like there's any urgency at all.

And ultimately, It just suck. It sucks. . It's just, uh, it's just, I, I, yeah, that's, I don't really have a lot to say about it. It's just lame.

Austin Lugo: Jimmy actually described it similar to, uh, a movie we talked about last week, or maybe two weeks ago, or three weeks ago. Uh, jumper, uh, funny enough, .

Andrew Harp: Yeah. I, I think this movie's a little bit better than Jumper maybe.

Eh, they're about the same in quality. That's, Yeah, because Black Adams like super overpowered, can kill and destroy everything in two seconds. And the character is just like, there's plenty of things that you could probably do with the character and, and they try to do that in the movie, but it's just everything end up ends up feeling like way too one-dimensional and the rock can't do it.

Like he can't do much with the character. Yeah. He looks really weird in the movie. It is just clear that like he's just taken a lot of, he's juicing himself a lot, you know, so his head and face looks. and at one point the character of Black Adam is like a skinny guy, so they put the rock's head on like a skinny body and it looks really weird.

Serious . It's like his weird angular juiced up head, like on a skinny guy, like, or not even a skinny guy, just kinda like a normal looking guy. That

Austin Lugo: sounds like quite, quite the experience. I've, I've only heard, uh, bad things about black Adams, so yeah. I wanna waste your time. I probably won't. It, it frustrates me because, you know, we've, A lot about superhero movies cuz I, I've enjoyed quite a few superhero movies in my past and what pisses me off the most is when you have a character like, you know, black Adam, who's just basically invincible.

Like those movies just, they just aren't fucking interesting.

Andrew Harp: He's super invincible. In fact, he's so in, he's so invincible that the only way that they can defeat him, they don't defeat him in a fight. He can't be defeated in a fight. So what they have to do is that they basically like have to talk to him so that he eventually concedes.

And Light gives up . He's super overpowered. It's ridiculous. I'm so fucking

Austin Lugo: dumb. That's truly, truly baffling. It's like, uh, those Zach Snyder, uh, you know, superhero films with Superman. Like it's just, you know, Superman's just

Andrew Harp: this, I'd rather watch the Snyder movies. The Snyder movies have like, They got the Snyder, the perspectives in, in those movies are a little bit more the, they're a little bit more interesting.

Yeah. Than Black Adam. Black Adam is just, it's just nothing. It's like,

Austin Lugo: it's just a hole. Yeah. I, I don't mean to compare Snyder, uh, to the, the great director of Jungle Cruise. Yeah. No ,

Andrew Harp: but yeah. Yeah. So, no, no, no recommendation there. Okay.

Austin Lugo: I, I'll keep that off the list. I, I haven't really seen any other films.

Been kind of busy. I did watch another movie. I just forgot to log it on a letter box. Have you ever seen, uh, Jack Frost? Have you ever seen that movie that Michael Keaton won? Oh, I watched that for the first time recently. I also watched it for the first time recently. I, uh, because we were sitting on the couch, Sophia and my mom were here, Maria, looking for a movie for us to all watch, and Emily had seen Jack Frost a bunch of times, but for some reason I had just never seen as a kid.

I think it's because like the snowman terrified me, cuz the snowman in that movie is terrify. It's a terrifying looking snowman,

Andrew Harp: isn't it? A Jim Henson creation? I think I saw in the, probably said it's a Jim Henson, not like, like a Jim Henson studio creation.

Austin Lugo: It's a terrifying looking snowman for whatever it is.

But yeah, , you know what I was, I was surprised by the film, like I, it was a lot better than I thought it would be. I think it takes a really long time for him to turn into a snowman. It genuinely takes 40 minutes in an hour and a half film for him to turn into a snowman, which surprised. It

Andrew Harp: takes a long time.

He's not a snowman for a

long

Austin Lugo: time. And then he's a snowman for a while and then at the end he's not a snowman, but everything up to him becoming a snowman. I really enjoyed, like, I just like the kind of like the dad's musician and he is just playing stuff. Like it's, it's a confidently made film and it's just like, it's very like fun.

Yeah. And nice and happy. And I like all the relationships and you know, I like the idea that he wants to, you know, be a musician. They also wants to be with his family and all that stuff. I think I love Michael Keaton in it, and the kid I think does a surprisingly good job for what he is given. But I'm not a huge fan of anything with the Snowman for a movie based on him being a snowman.

Like that's the part. I'm least interested in. Like, it's just, I don't give a shit about any of that stuff. It gets really dark. I did not know, uh, that was the direction the film went in. He, he just dies at the end. He goes to heaven, he dies , well, like he dies like halfway through the movie, he goes to heaven and then like a whole year goes by.

Yeah. I did not realize. That was, uh, the way this film was gonna go. Like it was gonna be like an orp and he is not orphan, but like a, a dad list kid. Yeah. I enjoyed it more than I definitely expected that I would, and I think the film would've been better if they just like kept Michael Caton and didn't have the Snowman thing, like just skip the whole like, snowman thing and just like make it like a, a family drama where like Michael Hook Kean, you know, wants to be a musician and he has to connect with his son.

Like just do that and make it around Christmas. I think it would've been a great. I would've very much enjoyed it. And you know what? I'm not ashamed to say that I really enjoyed the first like, you know, short film right. Everything up to him turning to a Snowman cuz it's really right. It's, it's a short film and then like a hour long film.

It's kind of two different films. But I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed everyone in it. I enjoyed the kind of silliness of it, but I think there should be an edit out there where it's just Michael Keaton, no snowman, but just Michael Keaton just chilling with his son. That would be great. That'd be a great.

I'd be all for it. I

Andrew Harp: like the Henry Rollins, isn't it? ? Yeah. I like, I like Henry Rollins's character. The fact that he's in it is very funny. Jack Frost is directed by like, uh, Troy Miller. He's directed a lot of standup specials, but I think he's also known for directing a lot of the episodes of Mr. Show. Oh, okay.

And there's a lot of like Mr. Show actors in the movie. Honestly. There is. Yeah. . I think Jay Johnston is in it. Paul f Tompkins I think is in it. I think you hear when they're watching tv. I think you hear David Cross's voice for a minute. Yes. Like a couple

Austin Lugo: seconds. You do. It's like a commercial and it's David Cross' his voice.

You definitely

Andrew Harp: hear his voice. Yep. . Yeah. Yeah, it's David Cross's voice. Oh, yeah. Because it's directed by Troy Miller, who Yeah. Has worked with all these people. So for me, that's the most interesting part of the movie. And everything else is just kind of a black hole . It's like I just, uh, you know, it's not for me, but, uh, yeah, I, yeah, like I said, like that Henry Rollins, isn't it?

Cute rocks. He's funny. I feel that. . Yep. Yeah. And I mean, that's pretty much it. I think I'm gonna see Avatar, we'll report on Avatar next. Cool. All

Austin Lugo: right. Okay. Dope. Cool. Well, thank you all for listening and until next time. Yeah, thank you again.