The Death Of Cinema

The resurrection of Movie Pass, donkeys, and deep space

Austin Lugo: We are back. . I've been watching a lot of movies lately. I've been, I've had a lot more free time because the movie theater, there's just more and more shit that has to be done every day. So, and it's, it's nothing that you and I or Brandon can do. So I have time for movies. So I guess that's, that's the one, uh, the plus side of everything that's going on is that I've seen, uh, a lot of movies recently.

I've been going to the movie theater too, which hasn't been something I've done in a while. So I'm, I'm back at the movie theater. I. Rediscovered. Did you ever use Movie Pass back in like 20 16, 20 17? No, I was too busy. It's back. They're bringing it back. How so? For those of you who don't know the story of Movie Pass, back in 20 16, 20 17, there was this company that claimed that for $20 a month you could see any movie you want, anywhere you want.

It was basically just like this little credit card that they put money on. and they basically just paid for your ticket at the time. It was a really bad system cuz they didn't have any deals with any movie theaters. So the cost for movie pass was exceptionally high. And they went bankrupt very quickly.

It was a really great idea because you know, it's a subscription service. You go to any movie theater anywhere in the country, go see any kind of movie. You could see 3D movies, you could see IMAX movies, whatever you wanted. It was really cool. I loved it. I had it for like the. Year that it existed. Saw lot movies that year saved a lot of money cuz when a ticket's like 10 bucks, you see two movies and it's already worth it.

But because they did not coordinate with any of the movie theaters, everyone lost out and movie pass just went bankrupt almost immediately, which was really unfortunate cuz it was a really cool idea. Great way to get people to go to movie theaters more really encourage people to go to movie theater. It was a great way to kind of save on money for those who didn't have a ton of money in 20 bucks a.

It's basically just like any other subscription service, right? It might be a little more pricey than Amazon Prime or Criterion Collection or whatever, but the deal is

Andrew Harp: like too good.

Austin Lugo: That's why I failed . The deal was too good. It was too good. Yeah. So I guess because I was originally a member, I was kept on their email list and I remember like a couple years back that they were gonna try to rework it and try to come back with the same founder, same guy.

And I was always pretty skeptical. I'm like, I don't know how this is ever gonna work. Like I just don't see this ever working. But I recently got an email and it's officially back. I actually just got my subscription last week. My card comes in the mail in a couple of days. The big difference here is they've coordinated with all the big movie theaters, so I don't know what their deal is like.

I don't know how it works necessarily, but they've clearly figured out a system in which they've realized that the theaters benefit and both the movie subscription service benefit. So I don't know if they pay some sort of flat B up. or how it necessarily works. It seems to work similar to how DoorDash used to work.

I used to work for DoorDash as a delivery driver, which was when you would go and deliver food sometimes. Sometimes you would have to buy it on a debit card. Really? So they put a certain amount of money on that debit card in which you would pay for that food. It kind of seems like they're doing something similar.

So what you do is you go to the movie theater and then you choose the movie you wanna see, and you have to be at the theater to do this. So it's a little tendering. I don't know why you have to be at the theater to do this, but you go to the movie theater, you pick the movie you wanna see, and then they'll put that amount of money on your card, and then you can go into the theater and pay with that card.

I haven't tried it yet. I'm still waiting on the card, which is supposed to be here in a couple of days. I'll let you know how that goes, but yeah, we'll see about this. I'm excited. They're using a credit system now, so before it was unlimited movies. You can see as many movies you want. Wherever you want.

Now it's, each film costs a certain amount of credits. So like if you go see a Tuesday matinee, it's going to be a lot less credits than say, a Friday night showing of a new film. And of course they have limitations. They're not doing IMAX movies, they're not doing 3D films. It looks like they're not gonna be doing new Disney movies like Marvel and that kind of stuff, which makes sense.

That's always a pain in the ass anyways, so I don't know. I'm interested to see they now have three tiers than before. Before they just had one tier, which was just like the unlimited version. Now they have like a $10 tier, a $20 tier, and a $30 tier. I'm trying out the $20 tier, which supposedly gets you three to seven movies a month.

It's 75 credits. They're still in beta, so it's kind of testing out the system. If you didn't sign up for the wait list, I don't think you can become part of the movie pass. I think they've already like finished it, but Andrew. . If you wanna try it out, let me know and I can send you, you can like invite friends or whatever.

So. Hmm. If that's something you wanna try, I can send you a link. The first month is free, so you know, if you wanna just test it for a month and see if it's something that you like. I don't know. I haven't tried it yet. I will let you know, but I'm, I'm excited for it to be back. I used to have that Regal Unlimited, which was pretty cool.

It was a bit pricey. I think it was like 23, 20 $4 a. . But what's nice about Regal Unlimited was it was as many movies as you wanted to see, no limitations at all. So you could go on a Friday night, you could see a new movie, an old movie didn't matter. But the reason I don't have that anymore is because here in Reno, there is no Regals, the closest Regal Cinema.

I think they're Regals. I don't, I, I don't remember. Maybe, probably, I don't know. I don't know. Back in Indy there were tons, like they were almost all re cinemas, right? Yeah. Which was great. So, you know, I had tons of options, but here the closest one, San Francisco. So four hours to go see a movie. So hopefully Movie Pass will fill that up because they do work with Century, which is around here, and they're actually working with pretty much every major and minor movie theater.

I mean, they basically have every movie theater in Reno on their list, even like the smaller ones. So I don't know how the system works. I don't know how Movie Passe is doing what they're doing. I'm hoping they get to survive this time, but I don't know. We'll see. I will let you know how this whole movie pass thing works.

Yes, it's, it's interesting.

Andrew Harp: What have you been up to since we last talked? Honestly, I've only seen three movies since last

Austin Lugo: time we talked. Wow. That was two weeks ago. That's

Andrew Harp: insane. That was two weeks ago. And that includes the Holy Mountain. Wow. Both of the other movies I saw in theaters at the Speed Art Museum.

So we saw, we went and saw eo. I, I would say it's one of the best movies of 2022. I liked it a lot. Uh, Jersey Skoki, Polish film director guy's been around forever. It's a late period film, very late period. Think of a, kind of like a European art house version of like one of those like fantasy animal adventure movies where maybe the animal talks,

Austin Lugo: yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Harp: Or something like that. And they go like on an adventure. Except it's like a donkey named EO who is in Poland, and he goes on an adventure and he kind of like meets like different fucked up people who do fucked up shit. He doesn't talk though. He's just kind of like a donkey that goes around and stuff.

Okay. .

Austin Lugo: It's a great movie.

Andrew Harp: Sounds fun. Well, I wouldn't say it's fun . No spoilers, but yeah. Okay. I wouldn't say it's a very fun movie, the Dark. It's a pretty dark polish kind of European art film. I had never. As far as I can remember, I've never seen a theater that packed before at the Speed Cinema. It's not a very big movie theater, but it was very packed.

It was really busy. Everybody has EO Fever, I guess. , I guess. Yeah. So I recommend it. It's, it is a very good movie. I liked it a lot. The only other movie was a movie that we saw last night at the Speed Art Cinema as well. We saw the new 4K restoration of, uh, rules of the Game.

Austin Lugo: Oh, fuck. One of the greats.

Andrew Harp: I've never seen it before.

I thought it was pretty good. It, it was. The audience seemed to have a really, really good time watching it. I don't really have a lot to say about it. I, I thought it was pretty funny. I thought I had like a very good energy. I had a good kind of like pulsating energy going on. Not really my kind of movie, but it was really good.

But the reason why I haven't been really watching very many movies is because, you know, last time we talked, I talked about watching Tulsa King, which I haven't watched any more, Tulsa King since then, . But in order to watch Tulsa King, I took my parents' Paramount Plus. , which I didn't have before. And we briefly talked about Star Trek.

And a while ago I tried to watch, well, I watched The Next Generation, I watched Star Trek, t n g, um, on Netflix. And a while ago I wanted to watch DS nine, which is kind of the next series after T n G basically. And uh, they took it off Netflix. But I realized after our conversation about Star Trek, that they have every Star Trek series on Paramount.

Right, because it's cbs bs, they own it. So I've pretty much just been watching Star Trek the past couple of weeks. Star Trek, DS nine, I'm on season two. There are like seven seasons altogether. Season is basically like 26 episodes long. I, I really like DS nine. Those 90 Star Trek shows are perfect. at any time of the day.

It's good to watch in the morning. It's good to watch while you're working. It's good to watch while you're like eating lunch or dinner. It's good to watch right before you go to bed. It's just the perfect show to watch at any point in the day. And I like DS nine because it's a little bit different than T N G, but it's similar enough.

Okay, DS nine is a little bit more dark, it's a little bit more pessimistic, I think. TNG is a little bit more, uh, classic Star Trek, where it's like very utopian and optimistic. I wouldn't say that TNG or DS nine are. . I wouldn't say one is better than the other, at least at this point, but DS nine is at least a little different.

Instead of on a star trip, they're on a space station. War is like a big part of the show and I think it will continue to be, as I progress through the show characters and kind of like their trials and tribulations are more apparent in the show as well than t N G and episodes typically end. Very sad. DS nine has like endings where it's just like, oh, that's the , that's the ending.

Wow. That was really sad. . It's like there's a lot of endings like that, but I, I love the show, dude. It's so fucking good. And the thing about the show too, of course, like T N g, is that there are so many episodes and I've watched plenty of episodes an hour where it's just like, yep, that was boring. So that's just how it is.

But of D Space nine, I'm definitely going to be continuing to watch it, but I need to get back in my movie grind.

Austin Lugo: Yeah. Damn. I've never seen you watch Sophia movies. I'm amazed. Star Trek. Star Trek's

Andrew Harp: amazing. I mean, when an episode of Star Trek hits, it hits very hard, just like any other movie in terms of its writing, it's construction.

It's just so sat satisfying when it's

Austin Lugo: good. Speaking of television, I started watching The Twilight Zone, the Jordan Peel one. Very good. Every episode is, I've heard it's bad. I've only seen two episodes. The two episodes I've seen are very, The comedian and what was the second episode I saw? I don't remember.

Maybe it gets bad. I don't know. I mean, you know, they're all one-offs, so it's kind of hard to say. But the two I've watched are very good. The comedian has Kamal, I can never say his name right. The guy from Silicon Valley and then went on to be in Marvel and the Eternals. Yes, him. He's. . It's a fun first episode.

It also has Tracy Morgan in the first episode, which was fun to see Tracy Morgan and then the second episode takes place on a plane. I enjoyed them. We stopped watching it because it's too dark for Emily. Like they're not, I mean, it's a twilight zone, so it's not like a happy, you know, go-lucky show. So we didn't get through very much of it and I can't really watch 'em while I work cuz it's pretty visually involved.

So I, it, it's not talky enough for me. Turn it on while I'm trying to work, but I've enjoyed it so far. Maybe it gets trashy. I don't know. I'll let you know. It's sad that, uh, Jordan Peele, he's like the narrator, but he doesn't smoke. Like that's what's so great about the Twilight Zone is like narrator's always like, has like 20 cigarettes during the episode.

But I don't know. Maybe I'll get back into it. Maybe I won't. I am about to finish. You should just watch Star Trek. Well, I'm going to, it's, it's on the list, man. It's actually what I'm gonna watch next. I am almost finished with the third season of the Wire, so I only have two more seasons of that. Oh, okay.

The third season is by far the best season. Like it's so much better.

Andrew Harp: I think I told you I started it and I didn't. I couldn't get through it. I don't know why. No reason in particular. I just started the third season

Austin Lugo: and I abandoned it. I mean, we've talked about the wire a couple times before. I was not a huge fan of the first season.

I thought the second season was okay, but the third season is by far the best season. It's way more interested. In the criminals and a lot more interested in kind of that end of things. The politics stuff is really cool. They spend a lot less time on McNulty, which I never really liked as a character cause he is just kind of a dick.

Is he the white

Andrew Harp: cop?

Austin Lugo: Yeah. Okay. In the third season, he's in it a lot less. I mean, he's still like the main guy, but I would say like in the course of an episode, he might be in it like five to 10 minutes. They spend a lot more time on the other characters. I think it's interesting because like the idea of the second season, right, is they bring everyone back who like moved off to different place.

They bring him all back together, right? To do another wire. . But in the third season they don't really do that. So they're all just kind of off doing their own things. And there's this really cool plot line, and this is why I think the third season works so well, is the mayor's like, I'm up for reelection and I need to lower the numbers of criminal murders and arrests and stuff.

And they're like, fuck, we don't know how we're gonna do this. Like, it's just a very violent area. And so there's this like really cool dynamic between like the police commissioner and the police chief and all these different people and the police chief's like, what I'm gonna do. Is I'm gonna round up all of the drug dealers and I'm gonna put 'em in this one area where there aren't like no one lives, like just this vacant area.

They call it new hamsterdam. And the idea is like, We won't arrest you for selling drugs if you're in this area because like there's no one here. And then like because they do that, they're like, yeah, we've lowered like the rate of crime significantly. Everyone's happier because of it. Because basically all they did is they got all the criminals and they just put 'em in one area and they're like, you can just do crimes here.

It's fascinating. And the way like, wow, they all interact with each other and how like the press finds out and it. Insane and lovely and by far my favorite season so far. I think the next couple season's gonna be cool too. Cause I think the next season is the school system, which I'm interested in. I dunno what the last season is, but

Andrew Harp: I think I had heard that like, yeah, the first two seasons of the Wire are just okay.

And then the

Austin Lugo: last three are great. I'm enjoying it a lot more. I mean, do I enjoy it as much as I've enjoyed, like Breaking Bad or Sopranos? Not yet. I'm starting to see why people like it so much, cuz the first two seasons I didn't get it. Like I didn't get why people loved it, but I'm starting to really enjoy it.

All the characters are coming into their own because there's, the thing about the wire is there's just a lot of different characters. and I think by season three there's enough about each character, cuz they don't get any new characters really. It's just they introduce so many characters in the first season, but by the third season you're like, okay, I, I know who these people are now.

I know like there are different ideas and things that they wanna do and they spend a lot less time with the cops, which I like. Cuz honestly, the cops are kind of shitty. I mean, they're kind of shitty at their job. They're kind of shitty human beings. and you can tell like part of it is very of the moment because the first season came out in 2002, 2003.

So at the time there was kind of this very procop kind of conservative movement, which you can kind of feel in the early seasons of the Wire, which feels a bit uncomfortable. But season three, they start to recognize that these cops are kind of shitty people and they do shitty things, and it's fun, it's interesting.

So I'm getting much more into the. I also watched a shit ton of movies. I went to the theater and I saw the whale. I know people are mixed on it. I get why people are mixed on it. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was visually very soothing. It's a very warmhearted film. I get why people can say perhaps it's a bit saccharin.

I get that. There were a surprising amount of people in the theater when I saw it. Like I did not expect a movie like The Whale, especially on the, it was like a Wednesday afternoon, so it was like the middle of the day, but a lot of people were in the theater and everyone seemed to really enjoy the experience.

I think it's a very warmhearted feel good kind of movie. I mean, if you're not into that kind of feel-good kind of stuff, you're not gonna like it. Frazier's performance is very good. I haven't seen Brendan Frazier in something in a long time, so I'd love to see him in more stuff again. He does a great job.

That's really the only

Andrew Harp: reason I wanna watch the movie. Honestly, , it's

Austin Lugo: really the only reason to watch it. I mean, it's a pretty small cast. There's only like six people in the film. It's all shot basically in one location, which is the Sky's apartment. It's very clearly a low budget film. Probably shot for under a million, maybe a couple million.

I enjoyed it. I think it's well written. I think it's very kind. It's very open. One thing I'll say about Darren AOVs, which you know, we've talked about him in the past, he sucks look like whether you like him as a director or not. You have to respect him for the fact that he's making the movies that he wants to make.

And whether you like those movies or not, like he definitely has a voice. And he expresses that voice. And if you like that voice, you don't like that voice, like whatever. But like, you know, at least he's not making another fucking Wakanda forever. Or the next fucking Ant Man. Or fucking Thor seven, the Fifth

Andrew Harp: Knives Out movie ,

Austin Lugo: the Fifth Knives Out movie.

Yeah. So, you know, you gotta give him that he, he's doing what he wants to do, which I respect him for and I enjoyed it. And I've enjoyed, honestly, most of AOVs Oscar's work. I get why people don't like him, but I enjoyed it. I also watched a movie called Margin Call. Have you ever seen this movie before?

Margin Call?

Andrew Harp: No. I'm guessing that's like a Waffle Wall Street trading movie, right? like type of.

Austin Lugo: So what's so interesting about Marginal, I went to this movie knowing absolutely nothing about it because this last week I'm like, I don't know. For whatever reason, I was kind of not wanting to watch older movies.

Like I just wanted to watch like kind of new stuff. Stuff I hadn't heard about. Just like fucking go to Netflix and just turn on whatever. Like I didn't wanna have to think about a movie, I just wanted to watch something, and I found this movie outta nowhere. Like I was literally just scrolling through.

Now Felix, and the best way I could describe. is, it is a smart version of the Big Short, so it's actually very interesting. Visually, it's kind of bland. It does have Kevin Spacey in it, so there is that. Kevin Spacey isn't the bad guy in it, but it's hard not to see him as a bad guy in the movie. Yeah. Or any movie.

I mean, he usually plays a bad guy, so it's usually not a problem. And this, he isn't technically the bad guy, but he's not necessarily a good guy either. He plays an asshole cuz. He's an asshole. Yeah, but it's fascinating because it's about the 2008 housing crisis, but instead of doing like the big short thing where they have to fucking explain everything to you, like you're a six year old, it's about this firm, like one night.

and the firm realizes that they have been taking margins, which basically means that they borrow money on mortgages and this guy like calculates that they are about to basically ruin the entire housing market. It's a really like well-made and smart film. And it takes place all over one night. And all it is, it's a series of meetings.

Like it's not visually that interesting. There's not a whole lot going on. It's basically just people talking to each other. And if you don't already know a lot about stocks or the housing market, it's probably gonna be a pretty confusing film because they refuse to ever talk down anyone. Like it's a very smart film.

And I'm not saying that like, oh, you have to be like so intelligent to see the film. It's just you have to understand the concepts. Very well going into the film, which I mean, as someone I used to sell stocks, so as someone who knows that world really well, I really enjoyed it. It's really fun. It's insane, it's sad, it's really well written, really smart.

I think I've seen some of his other work before. Let me see who the director is again. Like he's someone that's vaguely familiar. No, I guess I haven't. JC Cder, he's the guy who made like

Andrew Harp: most violent year Yes. And uh, all his loss

Austin Lugo: and stuff. Yeah. And he's doing the new Craven movie. Wow. Can't wait for that.

Yeah, I know. We're all super excited for that movie, but it was good. It was actually like, I expected nothing out of it, so I think that's part of the reason why I enjoyed it, is. No expectations going in. So if you want a movie with no expectations, it's a fun little watch. It's not very long. It is just a smart little film and that that's all it really is.

But yeah. The only other movie that I watch they think we haven't talked about is blonde. The movie about Marilyn Monroe based off of the Joyce Carroll Oats novel. Yeah, it's a big fat novel. Yeah. I'm a huge Joyce Carroll Oats fan. I think she is a, a beautiful writer. Of course, I knew a lot about this movie coming into it, cause I'd seen all the trailers from way back when, and it's an extremely controversial film.

And I don't really know why. Have you seen it yet, Andrew? No,

Andrew Harp: not yet. Honestly, the only thing that's kind of holding me back from like, really like diving into it, I do wanna watch it just cuz like, I like Dominic and he is kind of a crazy motherfucker and there's Nick Cave music in it, which I'm interested in checking out.

And, you know, big Nick Cave fan. Uh, it's just, it's almost three hours long. It's long. I just need to carve out the time to watch it. Yeah. You know, like you said, it's like a very controversial movie, which means that there's probably something to it. Like it's probably pretty good. It's probably at least

Austin Lugo: decent.

I really enjoyed the film. I guess I'm a bit baffled why people dislike this film anymore than any other film. Like there's nothing very. Controversial about it and maybe I'm just missing something. And I remember reading a couple interviews with the director and he is like, I think the reason this film is so controversial cuz people are asking about it cuz of course it's really cans and all these things, and they're like, you know, why do people hate your movie so much?

And he is like, I love that. People hate it. And I think the reason people hate it is because Marilyn Monroe, unlike most biopics, there is a very specific idea of who she is going to this. , and that comes from a lot of different places, right? People have very different ideas of who this person is, and his theory is that when people see on screen someone other than this person that they have built up their entire lives of who this person is.

that makes them angry. And maybe that's it. I saw some

Andrew Harp: other things that he said that were a little suspicious, but that's okay.

Austin Lugo: like

Andrew Harp: what? Yeah, I just remember like seeing on Twitter people picking and choosing from his interview. Like what he, that what you just said was interesting, but there were other things that he said were kind of weird.

I don't know. He's a weird guy, which I'm okay with . Yeah. He's like a weird movie director guy. Yeah, that's

Austin Lugo: fine. I mean, What I love about this project and I love these kind of projects, is this is a project that he's been working on for like a super long time. Like he's tried a very long time to get this.

And those are like my favorite kinds of movies. Like they spend like forever trying to make the film into a film, even if it doesn't become like a great film. Like the Don Kte film with Adam Driver. Like I don't think that's a great film, but I love that it took like 40 years to make the film. Like I love the experience of it and you know, with this film it took like 20 years.

I really enjoyed it. I think it's a very beautiful. Arms does a, a great job as Marilyn Monroe. I think it's, it's very tragic at moments and maybe I, I see a lot of complaints about it being like overly sexualized, but I've seen some much more sexualized films than this, and I don't think in this film, Marilyn Monroe is very sexualized and honestly, at the end of the day, knowing a lot about Marilyn.

Not from her necessarily, but from reading from the li biographies about people who knew Marilyn Monroe, I think he's honestly a bit light on Marilyn Monroe. I, I think he's kinder than he necessarily needs to be. I, I, I think he's very empathetic for Marilyn Monroe, and it's clear that Marilyn Monroe had a tough life, and I realize that.

The novel is a novel, it's not a biography. So there are some fictionalizations and I don't think the movie ever claims to be like a biopic. So it is more about the experience of existing with Marilyn Monroe more than it is about the actual fact. And maybe that's part of the reason people are angry, cuz you know, they're looking for like a straight biopic.

Like this is what happened in her life, where it's kind of more like,

Andrew Harp: You probably maybe should like approach the movie as if it's a movie about a person who is sort of Marilyn Monroe, like not necessarily Marilyn

Austin Lugo: Monroe. It's a fictionalized version of Marilyn. Like it's really, I mean, in the same way the Holy Mountains kind of like the idea of ideas or the image itself.

It's about the idea of Marilyn Monroe. Projection of Marilyn Monroe than it is more about the actual person, Marilyn Monroe. So if you go into the movie thinking, you're gonna watch a bio about Marilyn Monroe. . I can see why you wouldn't like it. I can see why you wouldn't enjoy it, but I really enjoyed the film.

It's very beautiful. There's a lot of different aspect ratios. I mean, he basically goes through the whole range of aspect ratios. I don't quite understand why you move from one aspect ratio to the other. Cuz I mean it'll just go from like scene to scene and it's not like a thing where it's like a certain time period.

Is this aspect ratio at a different time period is this aspect. , it's just all over the place. With aspect ratios, you'll have a four three, then you have a 2.39, you have a 2.01, and it is just going all over. And then sometimes it's black and white. Sometimes it's Sean film, sometimes it's digital. He just really goes the whole gambit with uh, different types of film techniques and it's a very imaginative and beautiful film.

I really loved it. I had a great time. But it is close to three hours long, which it doesn't feel like three hours long, but it, it still is three hours, so you'd have to take a good chunk of change out of a day to experience the film. But I think you'd like it, Andrew. I think you'd have a good time with it.

Andrew Harp: I would at least find it interesting. It's probably at least more interesting than most movies that came out last year. I'd say. So. Yeah. Once again, I'm just, I, I've not been movie pilled lately, but I need to get movie pilled again. I've been Star Trek, pilled. . I've been way too Star Trek pilled. I'll watch like several episodes in a day.

Like I don't give a fuck. That's crazy. It's just so chill and satisfying

Austin Lugo: to watch. I wanna see Knock at the cabin. I really wanna see that film. I think I'm gonna try to see it. This film?

Andrew Harp: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna see that movie. We're definitely gonna see that movie. I'm gonna try to watch, you know, MNA Shalan, that's a director who I haven't really seen any of the stuff.

I haven't seen Unbreakable or Sixth Senses or any of those movies. I did see Old, which was one of the best movies that came out in 2021. I really like that movie. That's another controversial movie where you have people that say it's really bad and you have people that say it's really good. I think it's pretty good.

I like, it's kind of weirdness cuz at Lisa it has like some texture to it, so I, I like old even though a lot of people don't like it

Austin Lugo: very much. I've only seen a couple of midnight Shalon movies. I've seen sixth cents Avatar, the last Airbender, which I don't think Avatar last Airbender should count. It's a very bad film, but I don't think that's necessarily a Nyha LAN's fault.

There's a lot of raisins that film didn't work, but I mean, we've talked about old before. It's. A film I wanted to watch for a while. I wanted to watch Glass, wanted to watch him breakable. I mean, I really respect Mite Shalan as a director. Cause as you say, even those films are a bit controversial and not everyone loves them.

This film's got texture, right. He's doing the thing that he wants to do. Oh, science. Didn't he do that film too? The film with the cornfield. Yeah, I've seen that one. Eh, that one's not great. But again, I respect Inai Shawan because he's making the movies that he wants to make, and that's all I really want for in a director.

You know, if they're making the movies that they wanna make, no matter if they're dumb or stupid or silly, I respect that. Like, you know, as long as you're not making another fucking Marvel or DC movie, although I am gonna go see aunt. Because,

Andrew Harp: no, I'm not gonna go see it. That movie looks miserable, dude. I'm serious, man.

Like, you know, I watched Amam one not too long ago and I thought it was decent and you know, am I haven't seen Aman two, but Amam three just from trailers looks like a fucking miserable green screen mess. Like it does not look like a fun movie at all. It probably won't be. I wanna watch them like interact like in the real world.

that's like fun, right? . Why would I want to see them interact in like a, a boring video game world?

Austin Lugo: I dunno, I, I can't even think of the last one that isn't mostly even like Black Panther, Wakanda forever. Most of it is green screen. But here's the thing, and man, they don't use green screen. They use the same thing they use in the Mandalorian.

So they use those L C D screens behind them. So I think it's gonna look. I'm good, dude. Like

Andrew Harp: I'm not gonna go see that movie in theater. It's

Austin Lugo: like, no way. I feel a, an obligation. I know. It's just, at this point, I, I've seen all of them, so I can't not do it now. Like I can't, but they get, they're

Andrew Harp: so bad. Why?

They're so bad. They're so

Austin Lugo: long. I haven't enjoyed, the last Marvel movie I saw in theaters that I enjoyed was Spider-Man Homecoming, which was a year ago now, so I'm gonna keep doing it. You mean the third one? Yeah. Sorry, not homecoming. No way. Yeah, that's the last one I enjoyed cuz Thor was, that's approaching two years.

Andrew Harp: I know that's approaching

Austin Lugo: two years since it was released. I know it's been a while because Thor was not good, which I was hoping it would be like with Teet, but it was not. Well kind of forever. It doesn't matter who makes these movies, I know. Oh no. The Dr. Strange one wasn't very enjoyable kind of forever.

Did we ever talk about Wakanda forever? No, I didn't see it. . It's got a really good opening. and there's definitely like images. They're really good. Cause I think Ryan Coogler is a good director. But I think it's the same problem that Sam Ramey had and even Taika with Titi had, which is at the end of these day, these films are films directed by a conglomerate.

And so the director's voice is. Buried. So you'll see like a couple images that look very good. The opening to Wakanda forever is very enjoyable, very touching, but the climax ends in a conversation. Also, does Disney own avatar? They must. Okay. Because do you know who the bad guys are? You know, in Disney World, they have avatar rides that I've been on.

They must don't avatar. In

Andrew Harp: Animal Kingdom, they have like, like an avatar section. . That's actually really cool. Honestly, when I went with my family there, the longest line that we waited for was for like the avatar ride. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very popular. It's a ride where you ride one of the flying creatures.

It's like a virtual

Austin Lugo: reality. That's dope. That's really cool. Yeah, so the bad guys in Wakanda forever are. Avatar people. Oh yeah. They're like blue. They're blue. They're like water people. . That's funny. I swear to God, I thought like halfway through the movie, like when they were gonna be like, here's where people pick, there's gonna be an avatar, uh, avatar Marble Crossover.

I thought they were gonna say like, we are from Pandora because like, . They wear the same type of clothes. They're blue. They're fucking water people, like the way of the water, like, I swear to God, I was just waiting for 'em to be like, yeah, like we're originally from Pandora. That's ridiculous. They,

Andrew Harp: they ran out of ideas.

Austin Lugo: They ran out of ideas. They just took Avatar. It was so weird. I was like, I don't understand, like the decisions that were made, because I guess technically they're not avatar people, but they, they basically are. So it was very strange, but the climax of the movie, like they're fighting each other and it just ends in a conversation.

It's like the same thing that happened with Black Adam. They're just like, Hey, let's just. Not fight. Like that's, did you watch Black Adams? No, but you did and we talked about it. Oh, okay. I did. Yeah. . Okay. Yeah, that's how I know about it. I haven't watched yet. Don't watch it. Yeah. I probably won't , but yeah, we'll kind of forever.

There's some good moments in it, but overall would not recommend. Especially for you, , who gives a fuck? Yeah. I know the day's gonna come where I stop watching the Marvel movies, but it hasn't happened. . It's gonna be soon though, because I'm, I'm running outta steam here. I, I really am . We're running on two years since I've seen one dive.

Genuinely enjoyed it. So which one's come out this year?

Andrew Harp: Aunt Man, here. I'm gonna look on letterbox real quick. Well, you know, new Spider Verse movies coming out this year, which, oh shit, I might see that

Austin Lugo: one in theaters. But that's Sony. I mean, technically that's, no, I know,

Andrew Harp: I know, but it's still like a, I'm just talking about like superhero movies in general as well.

Yeah,

Austin Lugo: you gotta see the new one. I

Andrew Harp: might see that one. Yeah, I, I'm trying to see, like, I'm on Leatherbacks right now. I'm trying to see what other Marvel. I guess Guardians of the Galaxy Three is coming out this year, which that one is. I might go see the Shazam sequel, which I don't know about that. Did you ever watch Shaza?

You know, I watched the first movie not too long ago. I was just kind of like bored at home and I was like, yeah, I'll throw it on, and it's just a completely blank slate. Whatever movie I. Just completely. I don't exactly relieve. I very much, I don't think. He's very funny.

Austin Lugo: I enjoyed it. I liked it. I really didn't care much for it.

Cravin the hunter that comes out this year. Oh yeah. Cravin

Andrew Harp: the Hunter , I guess they're making another Marvel like Captain Marvel movie called The Marvels.

Austin Lugo: Tomorrow's an upcoming American superhero film. Who gives a shit? I do not care. Supposedly that Flash movie is supposed to come out this year, but that movie has been in the making for like 10 years.

It's never gonna come out because the main guy, the guy who plays the Flash, he got into some serious trouble recently. So that movie's probably never gonna happen. I mean, they've been working on that movie forever. It's not gonna happen. I don't care.

Andrew Harp: Yeah, it's just. So I guess the Marvel movies that are coming out this year are new.

A Man, guardians of the Galaxy. Craven. Craven. , new Marvels, Shazam. Wait, no, Shazam,

Austin Lugo: shas DC

Andrew Harp: I'm sorry. I apologize. You should, and there's probably others, but I'm missing them.

Austin Lugo: I can't really see. I'm looking on On the internet. Yeah. I'm excited for the Spider-Man movie. It's gonna be good. I'm. . I mean, the first one was great and it's been a long time.

Did you watch the

Andrew Harp: trailer for the new a Aser movie? Bo was afraid.

Austin Lugo: I just saw the trailer in theaters yesterday. Oh yeah. It looks pretty cool. I'll watch it. I fucking love Aary Aser. It doesn't look as scary as his other stuff.

Andrew Harp: Yeah, it looks a little bit more interesting. I think he's pretty good for the most part.

But yeah, I like Joaquin Phoenix. I'll watch anything with him in it. He's really, he's one of the greatest actors. Did they play the new, the Indiana Jones trailer? Yes. When you were there?

Austin Lugo: Yes. Okay. , are you gonna see that? He's so fucking

Andrew Harp: old. I, I think I'll go see that one. Yeah. . Well, what's directed by, I didn't realize it's directed by James Mangold.

That's pretty funny. I guess maybe. Really? That would be terrible if it's directed by that guy, but who,

Austin Lugo: who, who knows? Phoebe Waller Bridges was originally supposed to direct it, but she stepped down because she's in the movie. That's funny. I didn't realize that. I think she wrote the screenplay. Let me see, Anna, what, what the fuck is this movie called?

The Dial of Destiny? Hell yeah. I'm gonna, Fuck it. . Fuck it.

Andrew Harp: Yeah. New John Wick as well. New Dune I think is coming out this year. I think I'm gonna maybe try to see Infinity Pool sometime in theaters as well. I bet it's playing

Austin Lugo: around you. I don't know about that. Let's see.

Andrew Harp: It's playing at several theaters around here.

Mia gots in it, and I think she has reached a big enough star status that they're gonna play it wide.

Austin Lugo: I mean, if they play it here, they're gonna play it. So, yeah, I'm gonna see it. I think, what the fuck is this movie about? It's a Brandon Kronenberg movie. Is he the son of David or is he. Yes he is. Did you not know that?

Yeah, I've heard his name before, but I didn't know like how he was related. Oh, okay. I if he was like a nephew or or whatever. I haven't seen

Andrew Harp: any of his movies. He made a movie a couple years ago that people really like Call Possessor. Haven't seen it yet.

Austin Lugo: Well, I mean if he's anything like the og, I'm sure he'll be great.

Andrew Harp: That's the thing. I don't think he, he's as good as his father, but it's still interesting, I guess. But

Austin Lugo: he is still young, right? Yeah, he is like a younger guy. He's got time. It's good for him, I guess.

Andrew Harp: Rim. His dad is a

Austin Lugo: famous movie director. What are the children of directors who are better than their parents?

I don't think that exists. I mean, there's a lot of child of famous directors that are directors. Are there any that are better? I

Andrew Harp: can't think of any. None? None up here in my brain.

Austin Lugo: I'm gonna look this up real quick. Looking around here.

Andrew Harp: Sam Levinson, he's the guy who created euphoria. His uh, father is Barry Levinson.

He's the guy who directed Rain Man and Sleepers and Wag the Dog in all those shitty movies.

Austin Lugo: Jason Raman, I didn't know his dad was. Oh shit. Ivan Raman. Yeah, he died. Jason Raman might be a better director than Ivan Raman.

Andrew Harp: I don't know if Jason Ryman has ever directed a movie better than Ghostbusters. I'm sorry, but I don't think that's, I don't think that's

Austin Lugo: the case.

I'm not as big of a Ghostbusters fan as you are, but I mean, didn't Jason Raymond, didn't he direct the last Ghostbusters movie? Yes, he did. That's awesome. That's fun. A little father, son action, and then his dad died. That's less happy. Rob Reiner's dad was a. Huh? Yeah, that's about it. Otherwise, I mean, Sophia Coppola, she's made some good films, but it's hard to beat one of the greatest directors of all time

Yeah. I don't know about that. Interesting. Hmm. Well, good thing we're not the children of directors. Yeah. That would suck . That's pretty much it. Yeah. All right, . Well, uh, thank you all for listening and until next. Thank you.